
(;ST[2]GM[1]CA[UTF-8]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[GOWrite:2.3.28]EV[Grand Prix 2018]GN[Zagreb Grand Prix, Boviz Dominik vs. Frejlak Stanislaw]PB[Frejlak Stanislaw]KM[6.50]DT[2018-05-26 ]RU[Japanese]TM[3600]RE[B+3.5 ]C[ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: Third game will start in 17\:30 CET
robinjo10 \[4k\]\: Standings after Round 2 and Pairings of Round 3 are published on the website
robinjo10 \[4k\]\: www.higou.hr]PW[Boviz Dominik]RO[3]US[Zvonko Bednjanec]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]OT[3x30 Byo-yomi ]BR[7d]WR[6d]
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;C[ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: game started 17\:34 CET]B[dp]
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;C[cherokee \[2d?\]\: does frejlak play on kgs?]B[pg]
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;C[jwf \[2k\]\: he is Siasio]W[jq]
;C[cherokee \[2d?\]\: ah thx]B[cf]
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;C[Xorax \[-\]\: 4 in a row, thats a win right?
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: has to be 5]B[ni]
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;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: 7 in a row is alive
abs \[8k\]\: k10 m10 n10 o10 p10 q10 ?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: there is a white stone at k10
abs \[8k\]\: ah, you noticed
abs \[8k\]\: must be alive then
cherokee \[2d?\]\: white has to invade somewhere
Poloco1 \[13k\]\: What is the komi?]B[jo]
;C[ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: 6.5
Poloco1 \[13k\]\: Thank You]W[io]
;C[Poloco1 \[13k\]\: Dominik Boviz's Kisiedo Go Server Account is Dom, right?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: no groups were hurt in this relay
njs \[2d\]\: yes poloco]B[in]
;C[Poloco1 \[13k\]\: Is this a tournament?
Pingu007 \[2d\]\: Zagreb Grand Prix
Pingu007 \[2d\]\: according to the title of the game]W[hn]
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;C[abs \[8k\]\: so white is cut of, time to create a third eye
njs \[2d\]\: white's wall is useless
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: j7 then L8 is alive but unambitious
supernova \[7d\]\: Because its not a wall
njs \[2d\]\: well it's a wall by definition of wall
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: its more of a partition really
abs \[8k\]\: what else can white play ?
njs \[2d\]\: just a useless one
abs \[8k\]\: l8 seems like a vital point to me
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: Dom should study go instead of playing 6 second blitz on KGS
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: the question is, does white even have to add a move
abs \[8k\]\: hm
abs \[8k\]\: if he does not die, perhaps he can tenuki
rats \[?\]\: he already tenukied once to get into this position
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: ok, he can tenuki and die
jwf \[1k\]\: he cannot tenuki
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: he can
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: he'll most probably die though
jwf \[1k\]\: r10 kills
abs \[8k\]\: how does it kill ?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: r10 q8 what is your reply]B[hl]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: this is the more stylish way of living I guess
jwf \[1k\]\: if I had r10 q9 would connect
abs \[8k\]\: right
abs \[8k\]\: so white has to do something
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: q8]W[pl]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: r9 takes points at the very least
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: Lee Sedol would kill all the black stones in the lower right just for the lolz
abs \[8k\]\: he would certainly manage against me
jwf \[1k\]\: no way to kill]B[qk]
;W[pk]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: seems like white loses at this point
domie \[-\]\: not killable but a lot of stones for a few points
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: w does seem below by the value of the lower right
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: behind]B[qj]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: Someone should make Dom a sandwich to cheer him up]W[kl]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: F2]B[eq]
;C[fekand6 \[1k\]\: F4
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: no, F2
njs \[2d\]\: chill
njs \[2d\]\: f2 was the only move lol
njs \[2d\]\: f4 randomly splits white up
Indigo \[3d\]\: e8?
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: He fell in love with pancakes during his stay here, so rather pancake than sandwich
Indigo \[3d\]\: l17?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: banana or maple syrup?
abs \[8k\]\: can black invade the top here ?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: yes
Indigo \[3d\]\: q7 also looks nice
njs \[2d\]\: l17 first
njs \[2d\]\: q7 is too slow
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: J17
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: Let's be hooligans
njs \[2d\]\: i suppose e8 is also huge
Indigo \[3d\]\: e8 or l17
njs \[2d\]\: but l17 seems more urgent
Indigo \[3d\]\: after black create some m14 territory as well
njs \[2d\]\: if q7 is sente then by all means do it
abs \[8k\]\: how about L16
njs \[2d\]\: im just lazy to read if it is
njs \[2d\]\: l16 is slack
Indigo \[3d\]\: definitely sente
Indigo \[3d\]\: but white hane
Indigo \[3d\]\: black respond, also white gets points
njs \[2d\]\: yeah i mean after black resposne
njs \[2d\]\: after white hane
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: what on earth is wrong with J17
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: just start a fight or live
Indigo \[3d\]\: if you don't respond to that, then there is no point in playing q7
njs \[2d\]\: no lol i mean
Indigo \[3d\]\: seems like there is still some aji in the corner tho
njs \[2d\]\: if its something like q7, p7, p6
abs \[8k\]\: r3 ?]W[fr]
;C[Indigo \[3d\]\: that is also interesting
njs \[2d\]\: well then
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: yose reduction instead
njs \[2d\]\: i feel like r3 is almost as big
njs \[2d\]\: b17 seems too low]B[bc]
;W[cd]
;C[Indigo \[3d\]\: it's big
njs \[2d\]\: this exchange is very eh
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: oc its big
Indigo \[3d\]\: white doesn't have awesome shape
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: white's behind on points
njs \[2d\]\: c15 b15 d14 d13 e14 e13 f13 f12 g13 l17
njs \[2d\]\: or maybe white will ignore now
njs \[2d\]\: and do some d8 stuff]B[bd]
;W[bb]
;C[bert \[?\]\: l16
abs \[8k\]\: or M16
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: Top of the world!
njs \[2d\]\: or r3
njs \[2d\]\: lol
njs \[2d\]\: l16 still feels slow for white
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: needs to c8
abs \[8k\]\: c8 for white ?]B[ce]
;W[ac]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: c8 dies
njs \[2d\]\: most likely
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: kill it
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: I just want aji
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: I'm aiming at b5 for a gote eye and fight
bert \[?\]\: it is more like e7 d7 e9 d8 f10 d10
njs \[2d\]\: r3 bois
njs \[2d\]\: whats the point of f10
abs \[8k\]\: q3
njs \[2d\]\: thats too slow
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: Q3 dies
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: isn't it a ko in the corner
abs \[8k\]\: not if it dies]B[be]
;C[bert \[?\]\: nice move w found
vaansama \[-\]\: b too strong in q4 area to do anyting
abs \[8k\]\: creative at least
njs \[2d\]\: wrong vaansama
abs \[8k\]\: dunno if its any good
cherokee \[2d?\]\: nice move but black has the same on the upper side
njs \[2d\]\: j7 and k6 and m4 all cutting points
vaansama \[-\]\: for r3,
vaansama \[-\]\: ,
vaansama \[-\]\: ?
abs \[8k\]\: j7 might be ignored
njs \[2d\]\: r3 q3 r4 s5 q2 p2 s2 s4 q5 r5 p3 p4 o3 o2 o4 p5 o5 p6 o6]W[cj]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: yes for r3
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: This game needs Slipknot
njs \[2d\]\: even if r3 dies white gets solidified o7 area
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: c10 miss
abs \[8k\]\: d10 ?
njs \[2d\]\: need d11
abs \[8k\]\: why
njs \[2d\]\: cuz d10 is slack
njs \[2d\]\: d10 d11 d8 d7 e8
abs \[8k\]\: hm
njs \[2d\]\: need to attack c11 stone
njs \[2d\]\: but who knows not like i expected stuff like b16
njs \[2d\]\: b17*
abs \[8k\]\: how about b11 then
njs \[2d\]\: possibly ig uess
njs \[2d\]\: it would go like]B[cl]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: b11 c12 c9 d8 e10
njs \[2d\]\: oh
njs \[2d\]\: wait whar
njs \[2d\]\: t
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: considering white's alive, this exchange seems mistimed
domie \[-\]\: I agree
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: maybe time suji]W[im]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: well
njs \[2d\]\: blacks area is getting huge
njs \[2d\]\: white needs to f14 or something
njs \[2d\]\: he cant live anymore with c10 stone withoutprobing from outside
tomangel \[1k\]\: J 7 = mistake
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: black's left alone is now officially bigger than all of white's cash combined
njs \[2d\]\: he's creating miai for when he r3s
njs \[2d\]\: at least that is what I'm assuming
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: its always easier to kill your own stones than your opponent's
tomangel \[1k\]\: F 12
abs \[8k\]\: j7 is how many points ?
vaansama \[-\]\: 0
abs \[8k\]\: that is not very much
vaansama \[-\]\: =)
njs \[2d\]\: its not about points
njs \[2d\]\: its about later white doesnt need to worry
njs \[2d\]\: when he attacks bottom right
njs \[2d\]\: since he can always play k6
abs \[8k\]\: of course it is about points
njs \[2d\]\: and if black plays k6, he can live somehow
njs \[2d\]\: ok, "immediate" points then
domie \[-\]\: attack bottom right ??? you mean "try an invasion in bottom right" ?
njs \[2d\]\: invade yes
domie \[-\]\: words are important \:)
njs \[2d\]\: invade and attack are similar
domie \[-\]\: no
njs \[2d\]\: im not using attack in the go sense
domie \[-\]\: attack = treaten life
njs \[2d\]\: im using it in the general sense
domie \[-\]\: threaten
njs \[2d\]\: well if you want to be pedantic
domie \[-\]\: behind the words there are concepts
njs \[2d\]\: moves like n5 are also attacking
njs \[2d\]\: i.e. threating invasions and cuts
abs \[8k\]\: come on, invade is something completely different than attacking
njs \[2d\]\: ok so if i'm threatening an invasion what would you call it?
domie \[-\]\: even a 8k knows that njs
njs \[2d\]\: it doesnt have to be about threating life
bert \[?\]\: i propose we start a new religion - pedantology
njs \[2d\]\: ^^
zzz \[1k\]\: f14
njs \[2d\]\: ok domie if we're talking about ranks then I suppose you would like to challenge me?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: I have been a practicing pedant for the past 190 years.
abs \[8k\]\: 190 \:-)]B[fl]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: Still going strong.
abs \[8k\]\: that is just a number
domie \[-\]\: in 9 stones game, B player thinks he suffers an attack when W approachs a corner stone ... this is obviously wrong ... do you agree ?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: All I want is a sugar daddy.
bert \[?\]\: it is lunar years, i reckon
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: "In a 9 stone game, B plays think". No, they don't.
okiol \[1k\]\: approaching a 4-4 is definitely an attack on that stone
njs \[2d\]\: ^
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: "B player", soz
njs \[2d\]\: just like n5 is an attack on l4 group
okiol \[1k\]\: which is why the defender usually answers by defending that stone, avoiding to be surrounded and attacked more severely]W[ff]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: no offence intended to those who take 9 stones, but the point is, if you can figure out stuff like this, you don't need 9 stones
njs \[2d\]\: exactly
njs \[2d\]\: okiol is right
njs \[2d\]\: "even a 1k knows that"
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: okiol is not a 1k
okiol \[1k\]\: that's right, i win the battle of the kyus!
njs \[2d\]\: "even a 9p knows that"
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: okiol is rather stronger \:D]B[md]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: dunno about that, I have never been beaten by a 9p
Xorax \[-\]\: we talking playing strengths now? or kibitz strength? ( \:
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: "My 4 points per move is stronger than your 2 points per move" \:D
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: true strength.]W[nd]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: i dunno, apparently 8ks know attacking better than I do
njs \[2d\]\: i guess ill drop 9 ranks overnight
abs \[8k\]\: of course not
Xorax \[-\]\: well 8 is higher then 2 so
njs \[2d\]\: maybe ill switch to chess
Xorax \[-\]\: but the secret here is
abs \[8k\]\: 8k is not the same as 2d, everybody knows that
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: 8k is new 1p, nj
abs \[8k\]\: (I hope)
Xorax \[-\]\: you dont need to know anything really to be strong in this game ^^
njs \[2d\]\: true
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: what you need to understand is two things\: 1) How to count
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: Dominik entered extra time, Stanislaw still has 26 min]B[ne]
;C[zzz \[1k\]\: m17
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: N17 and kill the corner
abs \[8k\]\: n15 n17]W[ld]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: don't care]B[le]
;W[mc]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: c12 looks nice
njs \[2d\]\: tbh
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: dang these yellow yose powder monkeys]B[me]
;C[domie \[-\]\: btw who is ahead ? someone counted ?
njs \[2d\]\: eh
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: black is 20+ ahead
abs \[8k\]\: 100 moves, time to start the endgame
njs \[2d\]\: white could've tenukie l16 imo
tomangel \[1k\]\: lower right is not b yet
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: yes it is
njs \[2d\]\: maybe e15
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: n3 too thick
abs \[8k\]\: f12
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: I think b being slack in yose because ahead
domie \[-\]\: is there a ko in the corner ? (when W will attack at R3 hahahah)
njs \[2d\]\: not a ko
njs \[2d\]\: but white will solidify o7 area
tomangel \[1k\]\: no
tomangel \[1k\]\: he did that with J 7 allready
njs \[2d\]\: i meant as a result of a r3 exchange
njs \[2d\]\: he'll get territory around n7
tomangel \[1k\]\: he will want more in lower right
njs \[2d\]\: how will he get it
njs \[2d\]\: say some moves?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: here's something fun to read out\: white r3, black replies q2
tomangel \[1k\]\: P 4 maybe
njs \[2d\]\: r3 q3 r4 s5 white is dead
njs \[2d\]\: with no ko
njs \[2d\]\: but he can salvage it to get o7 territory
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: q2 is more fun because it invites w to escape and destroy the centre
abs \[8k\]\: oh come on, it is black's turn
zzz \[1k\]\: r3 q3 q2 p2 s2 ko
njs \[2d\]\: wrong
njs \[2d\]\: s4 after that
jwf \[1k\]\: r3-s4
njs \[2d\]\: r3 q3 q2 p2 s2 s4
njs \[2d\]\: ur not living anytime soon zzz
okiol \[1k\]\: 1k so weak
abs \[8k\]\: I am weaker
bert \[?\]\: it should be r3 q3 s4 i suppose
okiol \[1k\]\: yes
njs \[2d\]\: then s2 bert]W[kd]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: r2 i mean
njs \[2d\]\: white doesnt have space to make 2 eyes
okiol \[1k\]\: q2 should work too?
abs \[8k\]\: is that sente ?
okiol \[1k\]\: and frankly s2 looks like it works too \:D]B[bp]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: no thats actually a ko then okiol
njs \[2d\]\: r3 q3 s4 q2 s6 s7 r5 q5 t6 t5
zzz \[1k\]\: r3 q3 q2 p2 s2 s4 r4 s5 q5 r5 p3
njs \[2d\]\: no zzz
njs \[2d\]\: after q5, r5
njs \[2d\]\: the cut point doesnt work dude
r0n1n \[3d\]\: r3 p2 q3 r2 s3 s4 s5 t2
njs \[2d\]\: lmao
abs \[8k\]\: if white manages to play d11 and b11 as well, he has a ponnuki
njs \[2d\]\: after p3, p4
njs \[2d\]\: p3 p4 o3 o2 o4 p5, white is dead
njs \[2d\]\: ayy theres the c12
r0n1n \[3d\]\: you all forgot about the o2 tesuji
njs \[2d\]\: u mean o1 right
okiol \[1k\]\: r3 q3 s4 q2 s6 r5?
r0n1n \[3d\]\: nono, o1 would be trolling
njs \[2d\]\: then r7 cut
njs \[2d\]\: after s5 connect
r0n1n \[3d\]\: nicely read
okiol \[1k\]\: ok, i guess loses some points
njs \[2d\]\: one sec lemme give the entire sequence okiol
nobo \[4d\]\: b is playing really slack
nobo \[4d\]\: maybe he think he won already
njs \[2d\]\: nvm
njs \[2d\]\: i misclicked the ctrl key and i have to start over
njs \[2d\]\: but yeah r7 probs takes some pts
njs \[2d\]\: white stil dead i guess
njs \[2d\]\: anyway i think the bottom line is r3 is dead
njs \[2d\]\: but i think white can salvage it somehow
nobo \[4d\]\: should be dead but w can get yose
njs \[2d\]\: ye
njs \[2d\]\: b4 seems slack af]W[ch]
;B[bi]
;C[bert \[?\]\: lol
abs \[8k\]\: q3 has been played
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: b4 is 14 points
tomangel \[1k\]\: what I said
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: makes e2 sente for b
tomangel \[1k\]\: w wants more on lower right
njs \[2d\]\: r3 now]W[pq]
;C[tomangel \[1k\]\: P 4
njs \[2d\]\: now q5 maybe
bert \[?\]\: heh, lucky guess
Xorax \[-\]\: just p3?
abs \[8k\]\: or p4
tomangel \[1k\]\: allready said
njs \[2d\]\: p3 dies xorax]B[qq]
;C[tomangel \[1k\]\: nice crosscut
abs \[8k\]\: yeah, I know I said it before, thats not the point
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: q5
njs \[2d\]\: hmm i think q5 instead of r4 is better
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: s4 has a lot going for it though
bert \[?\]\: now j7 will pay off
abs \[8k\]\: ah I remember the proverb, first cut, think later]W[qp]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: usually I never reacht the thinking stage though
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: fun times]B[oq]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: q2
njs \[2d\]\: uh
njs \[2d\]\: why q2?
mandolina \[11k\]\: good prediction
njs \[2d\]\: why not q5 instead
r0n1n \[3d\]\: it's gote
njs \[2d\]\: wdym
njs \[2d\]\: cant b just play r2 now
r0n1n \[3d\]\: surely he can
njs \[2d\]\: yeah and then white q5 right
abs \[8k\]\: so ?
njs \[2d\]\: but white couldve made use of q4 if he played q5 immediately
r0n1n \[3d\]\: might be so
Xorax \[-\]\: hmm r2.. if W push down between o3.. B risk dying ( \:
njs \[2d\]\: where after r2?
Xorax \[-\]\: p4?
Xorax \[-\]\: how else would a o3 push be possible?
njs \[2d\]\: not a risk
abs \[8k\]\: p2 then ?
zzz \[1k\]\: r2 p4 q5 o3 p2 o2 n4
njs \[2d\]\: thats simply not the sequence]W[pr]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: r2 p4 q5 o3 o4 p2 o5
njs \[2d\]\: thats the sequence
njs \[2d\]\: aand thats no risk]B[rq]
;C[Xorax \[-\]\: n4?]W[op]
;C[Xorax \[-\]\: in zzz sequence, seems weird
njs \[2d\]\: then just connect o5]B[po]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: just cut
jwf \[1k\]\: o4
nobo \[4d\]\: probably ko
Xorax \[-\]\: so there came an o3 push ( \:
njs \[2d\]\: nah
njs \[2d\]\: its alive
njs \[2d\]\: i think]W[nq]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: ko for sure
njs \[2d\]\: black will play o5
abs \[8k\]\: thinking is good
njs \[2d\]\: not p5
r0n1n \[3d\]\: o5 then w is alive, njs
njs \[2d\]\: yeah ik]B[np]
;W[or]
;C[Xorax \[-\]\: but W also got s2
njs \[2d\]\: like i said he'll play o5
r0n1n \[3d\]\: yeah but that's no fun \:(
njs \[2d\]\: so white is alive
abs \[8k\]\: almost yes]B[no]
;W[mr]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: not almost
nobo \[4d\]\: maybe j2 kills asd
njs \[2d\]\: s4 maybe]B[lr]
;C[jwf \[1k\]\: b will have j2 next]W[qr]
;C[rats \[?\]\: this was a good sequence]B[rr]
;W[ns]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: j2 w always has k6]B[eg]
;W[fg]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: reduction ?]B[dd]
;W[dc]
;B[fh]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: man c10 and c12 wasted
njs \[2d\]\: thats ouch]W[rs]
;B[rp]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: looks like w leading now]W[gh]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: yep
zzz \[1k\]\: k6
njs \[2d\]\: black played so slack
nobo \[4d\]\: s12 kinda huge
bert \[?\]\: according to SE]B[fi]
;W[ef]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: b4 simply wasnt the right time
njs \[2d\]\: imo
njs \[2d\]\: honestly k6 is big too]B[df]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: 77 73.5]W[gi]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: close enough that whoever plays better yose wins it]B[re]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: f10 is way bigger...?
njs \[2d\]\: gg dom
njs \[2d\]\: gotem
abs \[8k\]\: dunno, did not count
njs \[2d\]\: then count]W[fj]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: can't
nobo \[4d\]\: well
njs \[2d\]\: 1, 2, 3, ...
njs \[2d\]\: etc.]B[ei]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: 1,2,3 is ok, but not 100]W[dg]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: looks almost game over
njs \[2d\]\: d13 is worse than e10
zzz \[1k\]\: b4 and s15 looks small]B[di]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: c13
njs \[2d\]\: how about 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100.
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: how about "no"
Adin \[-\]\: ahem
abs \[8k\]\: ok, you win the pissing contest
bert \[?\]\: blimey, how many feet do you have?
Xorax \[-\]\: but there are more then 100 points
Xorax \[-\]\: and we only got 10 fingers
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: man's a centipeded]W[eh]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: c13
njs \[2d\]\: he's willing to ko?
njs \[2d\]\: oh i guess e2 big enough so its fine]B[er]
;W[es]
;C[Xorax \[-\]\: its not really a ko B can win
njs \[2d\]\: true dat
njs \[2d\]\: then again it's not really a game b can win]B[fp]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: so]W[gp]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: k6 here
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: its only 22 point ko]B[fo]
;C[Xorax \[-\]\: yes, but who is risking all the points? ( \:]W[jn]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: w loses 8 points as well in the ko]B[go]
;W[bh]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: worth recounting though
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: ok, now we see who has the ko thrats
jwf \[1k\]\: b is behind
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: threats]B[dh]
;W[cg]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: a11 lmao]B[eg]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: g10
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: though now g8 is not damezumari for whit
abs \[8k\]\: connect ?
nobo \[4d\]\: lol what is this game
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: look at those cavemen go
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: its the freakiest show, is there life for black
jwf \[1k\]\: w +komi
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: which shows why you should count, count count and base your strategy on tha]W[rd]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: you should but not like this
nobo \[4d\]\: \:D
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: b didn't count is my guess]B[eh]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: hence reduce]W[gj]
;C[Xorax \[-\]\: Im guessing he did count this several times over
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: can't have
domie \[-\]\: players of this strength always count Firestorm
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: how do you know]B[ej]
;C[domie \[-\]\: I noticed that]W[rh]
;C[domie \[-\]\: even when this is not a tournament game]B[sd]
;W[sc]
;C[domie \[-\]\: this is automatic]B[se]
;C[supernova \[7d\]\: throw-in,a2?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: seems reasonable, where are the ko threats?
Xorax \[-\]\: how many points will h4 give?
nobo \[4d\]\: 20
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: lol
supernova \[7d\]\: or h3?
nobo \[4d\]\: h3 first for more reduction
Xorax \[-\]\: maybe he is reading stuff there right now
wolokom \[5k\]\: h2?
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: both players are in byo yomi but they both took toilet break]W[rc]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: TMI]B[ds]
;W[cs]
;C[wolokom \[5k\]\: is hat allowed?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: yes, hats are allowed
njs \[2d\]\: no they arent
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: if both agree,yes]B[ar]
;C[wolokom \[5k\]\: and time stopps?
nobo \[4d\]\: w smart\:)
nobo \[4d\]\: but h3 might kill
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: kill what?]W[ke]
;C[wolokom \[5k\]\: its going on]B[hp]
;W[hq]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: some ko was available for the whole thing I think]B[gq]
;W[hr]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: now its only for 5 stones
njs \[2d\]\: jesus]B[gr]
;W[gs]
;B[fs]
;W[fr]
;C[jwf \[1k\]\: w+1.5
nobo \[4d\]\: b didnt use m1 advantage at all like this]B[hg]
;C[jwf \[1k\]\: yes
trifon \[8k\]\: K 13]W[gl]
;B[ih]
;W[kg]
;C[wolokom \[5k\]\: w horribel leading
njs \[2d\]\: how are you so accurate jwf]B[he]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: precise*
Xorax \[-\]\: Im rooting for B ( \:]W[hd]
;C[jwf \[1k\]\: I have finsished the game but actual game is different]B[ab]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: b still has 12 pt ko
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: b can surely start the ko]W[aa]
;C[jwf \[1k\]\: ah
njs \[2d\]\: white really botched up the bottom left
njs \[2d\]\: should've played a2 at some point]B[lf]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: or fixed g4
wolokom \[5k\]\: nobo where?
nobo \[4d\]\: t9 yuge]W[kf]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: b1 ko member]B[ir]
;W[iq]
;B[bs]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: I wonder if w can play normal yose and win
nobo \[4d\]\: ignore the ko]W[as]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: oof]B[ks]
;W[ms]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: not so amazing for b]B[bs]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: has some liberty problems around n4 if he keeps going]W[hh]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: 71 66.5 I get if w loses the c2 stones]B[ig]
;C[jwf \[1k\]\: p5
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: maybe w can make 4more points at n7 area, don't know]W[as]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: k2]B[js]
;W[hs]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: a13]B[bs]
;W[gk]
;B[ii]
;W[as]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: I think B+1.5 at the end if b wins ko
njs \[2d\]\: i think B + 1.8
njs \[2d\]\: 1.8573463*
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: you think too much \:)]B[oo]
;W[oq]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: imo a13 is legit]B[bs]
;C[Lice \[?\]\: how so?
njs \[2d\]\: ah because of e9
Lice \[?\]\: a11 after?]W[ek]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: i mean as a ko threat
Lice \[?\]\: ye still..
njs \[2d\]\: still what
njs \[2d\]\: u said a11 after
jwf \[1k\]\: no chance for b to win this ko
Lice \[?\]\: after b takes ko]B[dk]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: no, then e9
njs \[2d\]\: and just leave it
njs \[2d\]\: later b wil have to play inside so its around 4 pts
Lice \[?\]\: ye i haven't noticed that b fat group
Lice \[?\]\: late to the party
njs \[2d\]\: np
njs \[2d\]\: xD]W[as]
;B[cb]
;W[db]
;C[Lice \[?\]\: seems to me w has too many threats]B[bs]
;C[Lice \[?\]\: b should take now probably]W[sg]
;C[TuLy \[2k\]\: hmm
njs \[2d\]\: seems like white's gonna win afterall]B[rf]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: even without ko w has great yose]W[as]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: oh a3
njs \[2d\]\: its done]B[ge]
;W[ed]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: oh
njs \[2d\]\: now he can activate a13]B[bs]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: \:/
Shiver \[3k\]\: b have r1]W[oe]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: b barely alive]B[of]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: g16 ig]W[as]
;B[qi]
;W[pi]
;C[wolokom \[5k\]\: is w alive ?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: ys
njs \[2d\]\: m13
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: connected at j6]B[bs]
;W[lg]
;B[mg]
;W[as]
;B[gd]
;W[gc]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: no way B can win from here]B[bs]
;W[sk]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: lol
Lice \[?\]\: huh..
njs \[2d\]\: i guess white missed a13
Lice \[?\]\: he also had m12..]B[ds]
;W[lh]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: t9 was definitely bad
njs \[2d\]\: now idk if he can win lol
Lice \[?\]\: wrong order of moves by relay?]B[mh]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: w wins
HalcyonDay \[3d\]\: prob not bc then B has no ko threat anywhere
njs \[2d\]\: q7 is bigger
nobo \[4d\]\: lie 1.5
njs \[2d\]\: than t7
Slarty \[1d\]\: whats your sequence for a13, black looks ok
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: Everything is perfectly transmitted
wolokom \[5k\]\: next ko?]W[sm]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: after a13 just b14
trifon \[8k\]\: m 8
TheThe \[4k\]\: intense]B[rm]
;W[sn]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: lol
domie \[-\]\: ko again ?]B[sl]
;W[rl]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: f1 5 point ko also
nobo \[4d\]\: these guys are really bad at finishing the game lul
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: they went to the toilet, so they don't need to
Lice \[?\]\: must be tired..]B[rk]
;W[si]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: well now he can a13?
njs \[2d\]\: this is getting so random lol
Lice \[?\]\: its a shame white played m12 which is 0 points ko]B[sl]
;C[Lice \[?\]\: threat*]W[dj]
;C[Pipteen \[1k\]\: is his shame
njs \[2d\]\: well L
njs \[2d\]\: white may lose now]B[bg]
;W[rl]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: w needs to mess up like 2 more times to lose]B[qs]
;W[ps]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: he seems good at messing up tho
nobo \[4d\]\: e8
njs \[2d\]\: shouldnt be too hard]B[sl]
;W[bj]
;C[TheThe \[4k\]\: a12 better?
Vinicius \[1d\]\: b cant win ko]B[ah]
;W[rl]
;C[wolokom \[5k\]\: this is however funny]B[sj]
;C[rats \[?\]\: a12 was better
njs \[2d\]\: nah
kmr \[1d\]\: Siasio made 7d?! NICE!!]W[rj]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: he almost pro no?
wade \[6d\]\: he got 4th place in WAGC]B[sl]
;C[McMaster \[-\]\: where is Zagreb?
ben0 \[6d\]\: yeah but he cheated
ben0 \[6d\]\: he didnt miss any games
wade \[6d\]\: lol
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: Zagreb is in Croatia
Xorax \[-\]\: damn him! not missing games! >.<
McMaster \[-\]\: thx
Lice \[?\]\: is croatia in europe?
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: Now both players in 2nd byoyomi
ben0 \[6d\]\: yup, next to argentina
wolokom \[5k\]\: yes
nobo \[4d\]\: what
Pipteen \[1k\]\: what is Europe?
McMaster \[-\]\: Eastern Europe
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: Croatia is in Europe, member of the European Union \:)
nobo \[4d\]\: this gets cut]W[dl]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: ?]B[ck]
;W[rl]
;C[wade \[6d\]\: e8
Lice \[?\]\: since you brought it up ben, which american country am i confusing it with?
nobo \[4d\]\: I guess ko threats are more important]B[rn]
;C[ben0 \[6d\]\: costa rica ?]W[so]
;C[Lice \[?\]\: hmm.. mabye..
wolokom \[5k\]\: oh no
kmr \[1d\]\: Croatia sounds almost like Canada...\:D
TuLy \[2k\]\: lol
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: frequently mistaken in internet forms]B[sl]
;C[wade \[6d\]\: t5 is either brave or stupid
kmr \[1d\]\: CRoatia is rather Central Europe than eastern, really
wolokom \[5k\]\: its so hard]W[cm]
;C[bert \[?\]\: it is the famous Balkan peninsula
wade \[6d\]\: they have a good basketball team
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: Vienna is a little bit to the east of Zagreb]B[el]
;W[rl]
;C[ben0 \[6d\]\: or the classic "what is hungary ?" "sorry I'm fine, I just had lunch"
njs \[2d\]\: uh
njs \[2d\]\: gg
nobo \[4d\]\: w lost in ko
wolokom \[5k\]\: responsibel for the first world wor almost]B[ro]
;W[sl]
;B[kn]
;W[pm]
;C[wade \[6d\]\: c7 at e8 seemed less damaging
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: not really\: it started with the assassination in Sarajevo, Bosnia
Lice \[?\]\: w lost like 8 points with threats on the left?
bert \[?\]\: Croatia is just south of Hungary, fyi
nobo \[4d\]\: I think e8 was wasy win from the start
nobo \[4d\]\: easy*]B[qm]
;W[mn]
;B[mo]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: gg folks]W[ln]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: nopoints here
Lice \[?\]\: o7?
abs \[8k\]\: white seems to be winning]B[lo]
;W[km]
;C[trifon \[8k\]\: K 10]B[nm]
;W[ml]
;B[om]
;C[wolokom \[5k\]\: b winns]W[fk]
;C[aBot \[-\]\: w]B[em]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: w didnt mess up enough
nobo \[4d\]\: stil 2-3 ahead
wolokom \[5k\]\: t4
njs \[2d\]\: b wins i think]W[ol]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: ah, ko
nobo \[4d\]\: always ko
TheThe \[4k\]\: not another ko ...
opopu \[2k\]\: it depends on this ko i think
njs \[2d\]\: white messed up on left
supernova \[7d\]\: e6?]B[fs]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: would've been easy win
nobo \[4d\]\: yeah e6 good
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: 65 62.5]W[fn]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: w has million threats
njs \[2d\]\: n7 and a16 was legit]B[en]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: are*]W[es]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: that win is based on b winning this ko, of course]B[nl]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: ko for game]W[nk]
;C[wolokom \[5k\]\: b only a few
njs \[2d\]\: nah
njs \[2d\]\: b will still win
nobo \[4d\]\: w take d15 and win 1.5]B[fs]
;C[TheThe \[4k\]\: d15 and win?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: d15 does not win
nobo \[4d\]\: sure does]W[dm]
;B[bk]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: count it]W[es]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: b wins bruh]B[mm]
;W[lm]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: d15 3 points gote]B[fs]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: no way for white to win here]W[aj]
;B[ak]
;W[es]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: a16]B[ll]
;W[lk]
;B[fs]
;W[bl]
;B[ai]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: im failing to see white's million threats
jwf \[1k\]\: k7
Shiver \[3k\]\: t4 is big threat also]W[es]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: lol
Shiver \[3k\]\: then s11
abs \[8k\]\: not really, black does not need to answer t4]B[ad]
;W[fs]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: go is a cruel game]B[ab]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: this is another ko
njs \[2d\]\: he meant black]W[ca]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: black playing t4
abs \[8k\]\: sigh]B[ba]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: t4 obs a b thraet
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: d15
abs \[8k\]\: glad we figured that out]W[cb]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: ok now half point game
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: leaving just the man ko
nobo \[4d\]\: Im not sure anymore
njs \[2d\]\: black will win
jwf \[1k\]\: g13
njs \[2d\]\: play to the end on a clone]B[de]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: j15]W[gg]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: white should play q16]B[ie]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: b just connect]W[pd]
;B[je]
;W[jd]
;B[qg]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: this ko is almost 4 pts sente
supernova \[7d\]\: f6 losing move probably?]W[oe]
;B[fe]
;W[ee]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: m1]B[od]
;W[ls]
;B[kr]
;W[oe]
;C[wolokom \[5k\]\: never play ko its too funny]B[ec]
;W[eb]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: he lost earlier than f6
njs \[2d\]\: it was the d8 mess
abs \[8k\]\: this is more like a ko in a ko]B[od]
;W[nn]
;B[on]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: w win this ko and its still half point I think]W[oe]
;C[njs \[2d\]\: dunno where u getting half point from but k
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: b take 2 points here instead]B[sp]
;W[sj]
;C[nobo \[4d\]\: cant win ko though it seems]B[od]
;W[dr]
;B[cr]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: w take 3 top left in the end if b lets
domie \[-\]\: is this ko deciding the game ?
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: no]W[oe]
;B[ri]
;W[sh]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: well, there is still another ko
Xorax \[-\]\: t2 so big]B[od]
;W[fq]
;B[oe]
;C[domie \[-\]\: very big yes this is 1 p
nobo \[4d\]\: lol]W[gp]
;C[domie \[-\]\: lol
njs \[2d\]\: lol
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: 2 points
nobo \[4d\]\: b+5
squid \[?\]\: t2 is only one point
njs \[2d\]\: there we go nobo
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: 2 points
domie \[-\]\: 1 p
njs \[2d\]\: quite a bit up from the half point u deemed earlier XD
wolokom \[5k\]\: no 2]B[gq]
;C[Xorax \[-\]\: have the q6 follow up]W[sr]
;C[Xorax \[-\]\: so sente
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: hehe, 1 point \:D
nobo \[4d\]\: w really didnt need this much ko\:D]B[pn]
;W[jf]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: a point is a point
bert \[?\]\: half a point, really]B[if]
;W[gf]
;B[sq]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: -1 in reverse gote
wolokom \[5k\]\: ko]W[qs]
;C[domie \[-\]\: what about connecting at A17 ?
abs \[8k\]\: time for the corner ko's]B[ac]
;C[domie \[-\]\: ah]W[ss]
;B[jg]
;W[kh]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: et ding
wolokom \[5k\]\: teaching ko]B[aa]
;W[is]
;C[abs \[8k\]\: white might play g2...
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: 55.5]B[jr]
;W[in]
;B[gp]
;W[hi]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: 58 is score
nobo \[4d\]\: last ko was more than 3 pts tho
TheThe \[4k\]\: pointless
nobo \[4d\]\: very close game I would say]B[fm]
;C[Firestorm \[3k?\]\: I thought 1.5, looks like I was 1 out]W[jh]
;B[hf]
;W[gr]
;C[bert \[?\]\: or 2
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: pass
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: pass
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: both should know b has won
Xorax \[-\]\: depends on time
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: they are counting
Xorax \[-\]\: hard to count precisely if scores change alot in the end
wolokom \[5k\]\: and komi
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: b was lucky, both played great entertaining game
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: B+3,5
abs \[8k\]\: thx
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: Thank you for watching!
au2 \[?\]\: Thanks
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: thx Zagreb
Chaot88 \[5k\]\: ty
bert \[?\]\: thx for the relay, good work
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: great relay
wolokom \[5k\]\: thx for .....
ZGRGP2018 \[?\]\: See you tomorrow at 9\:30 Central European Time
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: and for th pancakes
Firestorm \[3k?\]\: cu
DamirM \[?\]\: Time for pancakes \:)]B[sf]
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